Join Laura van Dernoot Lipsky and Rich Francey as they discuss what the Future Tripping podcast is all about. In this short episode, Laura’s old friend Rich interviews her and she shares with us a little bit about herself, her work, and why she created this podcast. They reflect on the state of overwhelm so many of us are experiencing right now, and how we can identify strategies for staying present and trying not to future trip.

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